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HK SARS deaths reach new high
CNN Asia ^ | 4.18.03

Posted on 04/19/2003 8:37:26 AM PDT by Enemy Of The State

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:25 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Easter religious services have featured prayers for an end to the outbreak.

1) having had close contact with a person who is a suspect or probable case of SARS.

Probable case:

(Excerpt) Read more at edition.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; hongkong; sars
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1 posted on 04/19/2003 8:37:27 AM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
Good article. I just wonder if we could order a successful quarantining in this country, and ask millions of people to get out with disenfectants and other cleaning agents and help out.

SARS FACTS

Suspect case: A person who develops high fever (greater than 38 C / 100.4 F) and respiratory symptoms such as cough, breathing difficulty or shortness of breath, within 10 days of

1) having had close contact with a person who is a suspect or probable case of SARS.
or
2) having traveled to or resided in an affected area.

Probable case: A suspect case with chest X-ray findings of pneumonia or respiratory distress syndrome.

2 posted on 04/19/2003 9:13:39 AM PDT by xJones
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I keep wondering if is something that escaped out of one of china's military bio-labs.
3 posted on 04/19/2003 9:23:31 AM PDT by MsLady
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To: Enemy Of The State
HK SARS deaths reach new high

Um...............given that this is the first modern science has seen of this disease, it's pretty safe to say that every individual death brings the the total to a "new high"

Sloppy.

4 posted on 04/19/2003 9:27:32 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Enemy Of The State
HK SARS deaths reach new high

Well - they *certainly* weren't going to reverse!!!

What matters is the trend week to week ...

5 posted on 04/19/2003 9:28:08 AM PDT by _Jim (w)
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To: MsLady
I keep wondering if is something that escaped out of one of china's military bio-labs.

How many permutations on a virus do you suppose MOTHER NATURE comes up with on her own out there in the 'backwoods' of China where man, animal, chicken, pig, etc, exist in *close* proximity under less than ideal sanitary conditions?

6 posted on 04/19/2003 9:31:00 AM PDT by _Jim (w)
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To: MsLady
I keep wondering if is something that escaped out of one of china's military bio-labs.

A bunch of others are wondering that also. The Chinese government has been under strong critisism for trying to hide SARS patients, even to the ridiculous length of driving dozens around in ambulances while WHO officials were inspecting the hospitals. That attempted coverup is very suspicious as regarding a possible Chinese bio-leak, but on the other hand, communist regimes are infamous for trying to cover up disasters, and a naturally arising epidemic might be another example of trying to make everything look nice.

7 posted on 04/19/2003 9:31:23 AM PDT by xJones
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To: xJones
That attempted coverup is very suspicious as regarding a possible Chinese bio-leak

I forgot - we live in a disease-free world ...

8 posted on 04/19/2003 9:38:01 AM PDT by _Jim (w)
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To: _Jim
I understand what you're saying, and history is replete with pandemics that spring up all at once. China has an a LONG history of periodic epidemics that have in some ancient accounts, killed 50% of the population at that time. The Black Death originated in Asia and destroyed an estimated 30% of Europe. It took Europe about 100 years to get back to their pre-plague populations. And that was all dear old mother nature.
9 posted on 04/19/2003 9:42:10 AM PDT by xJones
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To: Enemy Of The State
"Yup - looks like exponential growth in the number of probable cases alright - we're doomed."


10 posted on 04/19/2003 9:42:23 AM PDT by _Jim (w)
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To: xJones
The Black Death originated in

VERY few diseases have reached the 'panic' level in our press as quickly as SARS has - yet there are diseases that have killed as many people (although over a little longer time period) even relatively recently - - even the plague is still with us -

- from:

The World Health Organization (WHO) Weekly Epidemiological Record (WER)

17 April 2003, Vol78, 16 (pp129-136)

Human plague in 2000 and 2001

The total number of human plague cases reported to WHO in 2000 by 11 countries was 2513, of which 232 were fatal.

In 2001, 12 countries reported 2671 cases including 175 deaths.

These figures are comparable with the annual average figures (2821 cases, 198 deaths) for the previous 10 years (1990ñ1999), when 28 207 plague cases with 1978 deaths were reported from 24 countries. During this past decade, 80.3% of cases and 83.9% of deaths were reported from Africa.

In 2000 and 2001, global case-fatality rates (CFRs) were 9.2% and 6.6% respectively, as compared with 8.5% in 1998 and 8.1% in 1999, and an average of 7.0% per year in the previous decade (1990ñ1999).


11 posted on 04/19/2003 9:52:00 AM PDT by _Jim (w)
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To: _Jim
Also, there's a excellent book, "Plaugues and Peoples", by William H. McNeill that is a fine read if you are in a gloomy mood and wish to feel worse. :)

He chronicals plagues throughout recorded history, and the list from China alone is amazing.

12 posted on 04/19/2003 9:52:39 AM PDT by xJones
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To: xJones
Whoops, that's PLAGUES, not plaugues.
13 posted on 04/19/2003 9:53:37 AM PDT by xJones
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To: xJones
Does he go into the 'sanitary practices' - or lack thereof - by any of those peoples?
14 posted on 04/19/2003 9:59:41 AM PDT by _Jim (w)
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Click here, and scroll down a little to the "Look inside this book" pages.
15 posted on 04/19/2003 10:14:46 AM PDT by xJones
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To: xJones
Thanks.
16 posted on 04/19/2003 11:11:35 AM PDT by _Jim (w)
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To: _Jim
Has the peak passed already?
17 posted on 04/19/2003 11:30:18 AM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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How does a histogram constructed from a data set that excludes >85% of the total possible cases reveal JACK?!?!

Know what? It doesn't...
18 posted on 04/19/2003 1:43:11 PM PDT by Axenolith
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To: RightWhale
Has the peak passed already?

It seems to have - for Hong Kong and even Guangdong province ...

19 posted on 04/19/2003 8:45:18 PM PDT by _Jim (y)
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To: Axenolith
Know what? It doesn't...

SURE it can be and is meaningful - IF a random selection are 'culled' from the group - or a process excludes a certain random (BASED on no criteria which otherwise skew the result) part of the population from consideration in the first place.

It's called 'sampling' and it's done all the time in a multitude of fields from semiconductors testing to medicine ...

20 posted on 04/19/2003 8:49:19 PM PDT by _Jim (y)
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